Dec 31
www.GiveMeLiberty.org — Fox TV News interviews tax protester Irwin Schiff. Watch as famous NY tax attorney is unable to cite any law requiring average Americans for file or pay. Schiff’s website is www.paynoincometax.com.
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Wages may be from “whatever source derived” but those sources are defined aren’t they? One of such sources are “employers” to their “employees” for services…thats right, its not so much “services” as it is “voluntary servitude”. Do you still voluntarily serve the government? No? Why are you still paying a wage tax. Oh thats right, because some dimwit told you that you are being paid wages huh? hahahahahaha, yeah, I’ll take some desk jockey’s word for it…cause they are smart. hahahaha
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
“employee:a worker who is hired to perform a job.”
Can you find ANYPLACE (in law) that defines an employee as ONLY working for the Government?
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Hey Retsquid, here is more truth for you to chew on. Since you are so bent on not being free…”Sec. 218. [42 U.S.C. 418] (a)(1) The Commissioner of Social Security shall, at the request of any State, enter into an agreement with such State for the purpose of extending the insurance system established by this title to services performed by individuals as employees of such State or any political subdivision thereof.” -are your SURE you have wages? Remember, wages are recieved by “employees”
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
“We are free men, free of any government including our own.”
Now THAT is an idiotic statement.
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
The truth of the matter is, the federal government, state, local etc. has absolutely no power of the people. As soon as Americans start understanding what they are, the government will lose its ill gotten control. That is a simple way to put it. As a retired military person, you should understand that.
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
“The end result is that the IRS is a creature of “positive law” because it was created through congressionally mandated power.”
Retsquid, the congress does not control the people, only government people directly working for them. Are you sure you were in the military? Have you read the Declaration of Independence and constitution yet? We are free men, free of any government including our own. The federal government was created by the people, to protect the rights we inherently have.
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
U.S. Supreme Court
The Revenue Act of 1918 approved February 24, 1919, c. 18, 210, 211, 212(a), 213(a), 40 Stat. 1057, 1062, 1064, 1065, imposes a tax upon the net income of every individual including ‘income derived from salaries, wages, or compensation for personal service … of whatever kind and in whatever form paid,’ LUCAS v. EARL, 281 U.S. 111 (1930)
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
The plain language of the IRC, however, belies this assertion, stating in section 1 that a tax is hereby IMPOSED on the taxable income of every individual (emphasis added). Although plaintiff attempts to distinguish between imposing a tax and creating a liability for a tax, there is no difference. Every individual has an affirmative duty to pay taxes. Porcaro v. United States
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
The term “taxpayer” in this opinion is used in the strict or narrow sense contemplated by the Internal Revenue Code and means a person who pays, overpays, or is subject to pay his own personal income tax. (See Section 7701(a) (14) of the Internal Revenue Code of 1954.) A “non-taxpayer” is a person who does not possess the foregoing requisites of a taxpayer. CLINTWOOD ELKHORN MINING COMPANY,
GATLIFF COAL COMPANY, and PREMIER ELKHORN COAL COMPANY,
v. UNITED STATES
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
The end result is that the IRS is a creature of “positive law” because it was created through congressionally mandated power. By plaintiff’s own “positive law” premise, then, the IRS is a validly created governmental agency and not a “private corporation.” It enjoys the sovereign immunity of the United States, and thus is entitled to summary judgment in this cause of action.
YOUNG v. IRS
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Ones gain, ergo his income, from the sale of his labor is the entire amount received therefor without any reduction for what he spends to satisfy his human needs.
Hahahaha, good God people are dumb. Here is another fine example of someone that should remain getting ripped off by the Government. You do not sell you labor by going to work in the private sector. That is all I’m willing to say, look the rest up yourself ya dolt.
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Why would you file a frivolous zero return? Do you even understand what constitutes a “zero return”? If you file a frivolous form you will be fined, or at least attempt to fine you. A Zero return is one in which you claim 0 wages or 0 income. If you do not have wages or income you leave the lines blank. If you choose to write on the lines anyway, they will attempt to impose a fine. The logical route is not to write a 0 on lines not used huh? There are those who believe 0 returns are OK though.
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
Irwin is right of course but the government is a mafia.
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
I hear if you file a zero income return the IRS will fine you $5000. Anybody try it yet?
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
You sound like a dick and you sound like you work for the I.R.S.
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
tRY READING IT, INSTEAD OF COPYING DUMB THEORIES FROM PROTESTER WEBSITES
Look who’s coping and pasting from websites moron, every single word you’ve supposedly typed is in the exact same order as can be found on Dan Evans Tax Protestor FAQ website. Funny though because the so-called court cases he states from can be found no other place but on his website even though they’re public information? Maybe you can find an answer for this as well on his website to copy and paste here.
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
HEY, IRWIN WENT TO JAIL WITH THIS ONE!!
… Appellants argument is refuted by one of the cases he cites. In Strattons Independence, Ltd. v. Howbert, 231 U.S. 399,
(1913),
You moron, once again you’ve proven your stupidity to me. The Strattons case dealt with mining ores and Corporation tax law idiot, are you a Corporation? And NO IRWIN didn’t go to jail over this. Your information source is getting lame BEDE!!
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
More Bullshit nonsensical posts which you’ve no doubtedly copied and pasted from evans’s Tax protestor FAQ website I see BEDE!! It’s to bad his website is the only place where these bogus court cases can be found. Makes one wonder if they themselves are real or fake? Hmmmm I would just about guarantee them to be a fraud just like the income tax law since no other references can be found on these except the TP FAQ website. Just like the IRS’s own website fails to show the law as well.
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
That’s funny BEDE everyone of your posts I bet you copied and pasted from that moron Evans website who claims to be telling the truth but if you look into his history one would find he’s a former???? What BEDE what? he’s a former what? Now get the fuck outta here BEDE or you can shut up and learn something.
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
CRYER HAD TO Pay every penny in taxes
Once again you’re very wrong Ret..er..uh..BEDE. I thought you’d have done better homework then this and come a little bit more prepared. Cryer didn’t have to pay not one cent or any pennies at all to the IRS, they turned tail and ran. Read the court transcripts moron from his website. In fact he talks on a radio show as well about his adventure. He’s now sueing the IRS for damages. Straight from the horses mouth moron!!
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
LIKE EVRY SINGLE ONE OF YOUR ARGUMENTS, THIS HAS BEEN REJECTED BY THE COURTS Ones gain, ergo his income, from the sale of his labor is the entire amount received therefor without any reduction for what he spends to satisfy his human needs.
Reading v. Commissioner, 70 T.C. 730, 734 (1978), affd. 614 F.2d 159 (8th Cir. 1980).
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
CRYER HAD TO Pay every penny in taxes . Your idea of a win, is if A protester gets lucky & does notgo to jail, YOU CONSIDER THAT A WIN. My, what low standards you have! We won, we won,.one idiot avoided jail!! yea, yea . HE HAD TO PAY EVERY PENNY HE OWED IN TAXES, BUT HE avoided JAIL. WHAT A GREAT WIN! The court said he owes every penny. Why dont you get Lexis or Westlaw so you CAN ACTUALLY READ THE CASES YOU USE,INSTEAD OF COPYING OUT OF CONTEXT EXCERTS FROM TAX PROTEST DUMMY WEBSITES.
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
READ SECTION 61 UPHELD BY EVERY COURT DECISION FOR 50 YEARS. The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly held that Congress intended to tax everything within the Constitutional meaning of income, and so the Internal Revenue Code taxes all gains except those specifically exempted. Commissioner v. Glenshaw Glass Co., 348 U.S. 426, 429-431 (1955); Commissioner v. LoBue, 351 U.S. 243, 246 (1956).
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
HEY, IRWIN WENT TO JAIL WITH THIS ONE!!
… Appellants argument is refuted by one of the cases he cites. In Strattons Independence, Ltd. v. Howbert, 231 U.S. 399,
(1913), the Court did define income as gain derived from labor. The Court explainED, however, that the earnings of the human brain and hand when unaided by capital are commonly treated as income.
December 31st, 2008 at 6:09 pm
EeAST AGAIN- ITS SO SIMPLE:
Section 61(a) of the Internal Revenue Code says that gross income (which is the starting point for determining taxable income) means all income from whatever source derived, including (but not limited to) the following items: (1) Compensation for services, including fees, commissions, fringe benefits, and similar items….